Which Software?


#1

Hi all. I’m a third year architecture student studying at Victoria Uni in NZ and am in the process of learning Revit, which my school has adopted as it’s preferred CAD platform. I had previously studied for a year at another university who encouraged the use of Vectorworks. I’ve since struggled with the constant thought of am I learning the best or most relevant or most popular or most useful etc etc software. Many people also talk about Archicad and Autocad as the CAD program to learn; Uni is a busy time so I only really want to learn one at this stage. Is Revit the right one ??? Any thoughts and comments most welcome, regarding all the mentioned software and their relevance in the workplace and ease of use/capabilities etc.


#2

"http://www.architecturalevangelist.com/building-information-modeling/archicad-or-r%20evit-even-octopus-prefers-both.html


"BIM" - Vietnamese say "BiM" but... I don't see, ... I don't know.


Xem xong link ?i ?ã nhé!


R?i bình:


? thì, ?âu riêng em ku có tu?i Revit m?i làm ???c ra BIM, mà c? chàng quân s? ??p trai công t? b?t Graphisoft ArchiCAD l?n d?ng t??ng Bentley Microstation.



Hãy xem "2 k? ngo?i ??o" nh? "2 cô gái xinh ??p" ?ánh giá v? "3 chàng trai" c?a chúng mình:'


1. Archicad


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArchiCAD


http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=archicad+14&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=archiCAD&gs_rfai=



2. Microstation


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroStation


http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=microstation+v8i&aq=2&aqi=g7g-m2&aql=&oq=microstation&gs_rfai=



3. Revit


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revit


http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=3&q=revit&btnG=Search+images



Nh?ng gì mà "2 cô nàng" ?ánh giá b?n th?y sao? có trung th?c không?



K?t lu?n:


Ng??i ?àn ông d?ng c?m xông pha tr?n m?c th? hi?n chi?n tích b?ng nh?ng v?t th??ng trên ng??i,


K? công t? b?t khoác cho mình t?m áo ??p."


*(quotation my blog)


http://dotuanhanh.blogspot.com/2010/11/bim-cuoc-tinh-tay-3-3-ga-kho-tranh-nhau.html


I thinks, ArchiCAD & Microstation not yet "full BIM"



Regards,


#3

I can recommend Revit. In the other programs do not work. I simply think Revit is the one.


#4

You’ve sold me !!! The combo of Revit and Vasari sounds like it ticks all the boxes; I really am quite keen on mastering one program at the moment rather than dipping into a selection. My school is keen on us using 3DS Max for rendering but I’d rather first master Revits rendering features first, I find 3DS quite intimidating whenever I open it. We also used Ecotect for environmental modelling but it seems Vasari can now take the place of that too, would that be correct ? Is Revit considered one of the main players in the market now, in NZ Archicad seems to be one of the most popular, I get the impression Revit is big in the states ?


#5

Vasari is the Technology Preview for Revit, in other words a simplified Revit with some added tools. If you find Revit user-friendly then Vasari will be even better. The advantage over Sketchup is that once you've come up with a concept design you like you can take it to full Revit for serious documentation. (Honestly... I fail to see Sketchup as a serious Architectural tool, but I respect its reach with general public and some of its functionality)


The use of Rhino or Maya in Architecture has to do with design techniques or approaches to more "freeform" design whenever the designer is more comfortable with those tools. The new feature in Vasari 1.1 called Nucleus was originally a Maya tool, and allows for physical simmulation of cloth-like surfaces. It also has a powerful parametric engine, enabling some interesting form-finding exploration. Rhino is a native NURBs editor, and has some cool plugins like Grasshopper that make some very specific tasks particularly easy, although in very "traditional" design approaches you can easily do without them. If extremely curvy and organic Architecture (like Zaha Hadid or LAVA) is not your cup of tea, I would give them low priority particularly if you prefer to concentrate in fewer platforms. Give Vasari a try, it's free after all :D



#6

Thanks for all the input guys…At the moment, I’ve gotten quite capable with sketchup, should I look to replace using SU with vasario at the early design stage? What uses would Maya and Rhino have for an architect, I thought they were more geared or animation types ? …I have to say that what I’ve learnt so far with Revit, that I find it very user friendly and love its interface; I find vectorworks quite convoluted and difficult to pick up. There are also tonnes of tutorials and blogs available for revit, which also makes the learning process a lot easier.


#7

Hi Mark,


I would encourage you to learn different software packages, as each of them has different strong points. Revit is a fairly versatile product and the industry is very inclined towards it. Most large practices are fully committed to Building Information Modeling (BIM) and Revit happens to have this as its core strong point.


I ditto Rama Krishna and Dindo's comments in regards to Revit being extremely powerful (simply the best) and that you won't regret it, although it has several settings to learn that may be overwhelming as the very first Design software.


Vasari is based on the Revit Technology and is geared towards concept stage modeling, which will probably help you get your head around the workflow and the basic procedures, being able to use Revit for documentation or for more advanced features.


Another point to highlight is that you refer to "CAD" and to programs like AutoCAD or Revit indistinctively. I feel compelled to clarify that some programs (like AutoCAD, Rhino or Sketchup) are some sort of "drawing board on steroids" that allow you to draw and edit fairly complex drawings, in 2D or 3D. Revit (like ArchiCAD or Vectorworks) instead has a completely different approach to the drawing process, as it works like a database, where all your "views" (that could be plans, sections, elevations, perspectives, schedules) are interactively linked to that database so wherever you change an object property it will update throughout, making it extremely powerful.


Bottom line is: play with Vasari (center of this forum, so come back with questions as soon as you hit the first hurdle), learn seriously Revit as main tool, keep an eye on other design/drawing software (I would particularly recommend AutoCAD, Maya and Rhino) and that will give you all the tools you need.


Happy Vasariing :D


#8

revit is simply the best! now that they have vasari, parametric design is now easier!



#9

learn revit. u’l not regret. al d best.