# How to find insertion point and rotation XYZ for PointCloud object **URL:** \ **Category:** Revit\ **Tags:** dynamo\ **Created:** [October 23, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/how-to-find-insertion-point-and-rotation-xyz-for-pointcloud-object/42248 "2019-10-23T18:30:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![claude.godin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@claude.godin](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/claude.godin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/how-to-find-insertion-point-and-rotation-xyz-for-pointcloud-object/42248/1 "2019-10-23T18:30:45Z")
Hello All, Is there a code or others that would allow me to retrieve the insertion point and the rotation in the three axes (XYZ) for a PointCloud insert into Revit Project. Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Ewan\_Opie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/ewan_opie/32/77070_2.png) [@Ewan\_Opie](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Ewan_Opie)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/how-to-find-insertion-point-and-rotation-xyz-for-pointcloud-object/42248/2 "2019-10-23T20:29:45Z")
Welcome to the forum @claude.godin 🙂 There are some nodes in my [Sastrugi Package](https://sites.google.com/view/sastrugi/home) that perform these functions. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/dynamobim/original/3X/f/f/ff2eea0afda3a2f40d30473bae375c9ed18b793d.png) **❄\_Pointcloud Get Scans and Regions** This node extracts Scan Names/Origins and Scan Region Names from within a Pointcloud Instance. **❄\_Pointcloud Get Transform and Scale** This node returns the Transform Origin/Vectors and Scale of a Pointcloud Instance. > [@Sastrugi Package - Updated](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/sastrugi-package-updated/17336): > > New Package Available. Introducing… [Logo Capture] Sastrugi should now be live in the Package Manager. Examples of use and more information can be found on the Package Website here: [https://sites.google.com/view/sastrugi](https://sites.google.com/view/sastrugi) This package contains 20 Nodes. :snowflake:\_Audit DYN File :snowflake:\_Convert Dynamo XYZ to Revit Coordinate XYZ :snowflake:\_Copy Filter Overrides to Views :snowflake:\_Count and Repeat :snowflake:\_Delete DYN and DYF Backup Files :snowflake:\_Find Elements with Overri… ---
**Author:** ![claude.godin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@claude.godin](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/claude.godin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/how-to-find-insertion-point-and-rotation-xyz-for-pointcloud-object/42248/3 "2019-10-24T13:25:32Z")
Thank you very much Ewan\_Opie. Is it possible to have the rotations in XYZ in angle form not in vector form? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Ewan\_Opie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/ewan_opie/32/77070_2.png) [@Ewan\_Opie](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Ewan_Opie)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/how-to-find-insertion-point-and-rotation-xyz-for-pointcloud-object/42248/4 "2019-10-24T20:00:23Z")
You will need to use the Vectors from the node and compare them with the associated Vectors from the Projects coordinate system. So there are a couple of things to consider. Is your Revit project using Shared site coordinates? Is there a value specified in the Project Base Point for the “Angle to True North”? Have you rotated the cloud instance after initially loading it in? ---
**Author:** ![saju\_autodesk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/saju_autodesk/32/61838_2.png) [@saju\_autodesk](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/saju_autodesk)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/how-to-find-insertion-point-and-rotation-xyz-for-pointcloud-object/42248/5 "2021-05-05T04:46:38Z")
@Ewan_Opie Incase If I have rotated my point cloud after loading it, how do I go about it? I mean how do I find the updated Transform, it seems to still return the old ones ---
**Author:** ![software39FWFY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@software39FWFY](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/software39FWFY)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/how-to-find-insertion-point-and-rotation-xyz-for-pointcloud-object/42248/6 "2023-10-04T04:52:08Z")
Hi Ewan, I can’t find the “Pointcloud Get Scans and Regions” in any of your current downloads at the following link > **[Sastrugi for Dynamo - Downloads](https://sites.google.com/view/sastrugi/downloads)** > > \# UPDATE 2022-06-07 Package Updates make this download redundant > 2019-05-23 Updated Node from v0.1.5 > ❄\_Pointcloud Select Points in View > (UPDATED : 2019-07-10 Added Project Unit Detection between Metric and Imperial) > (UPDATED : 2019-08-01 Fixed... Thanks in advance 🙂