# Family Instance By Point and Level defaulting to 10' **URL:** \ **Category:** Revit\ **Created:** [December 19, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724 "2024-12-19T21:54:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Evan.Pond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/evan.pond/32/98460_2.png) [@Evan.Pond](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Evan.Pond)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/1 "2024-12-19T21:54:39Z")
I’m using the Family Instance By Point and Level node and it is defaulting to 10’ rather than the height specified. Family Instance By point is working fine. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/dynamobim/original/3X/a/d/ad25f03722473a9710a2ee36471ce10834482024.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Boyts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/nick_boyts/32/76313_2.png) [@Nick\_Boyts](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Nick_Boyts)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/2 "2024-12-19T22:02:47Z")
What’s the elevation of your level? ---
**Author:** ![Evan.Pond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/evan.pond/32/98460_2.png) [@Evan.Pond](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Evan.Pond)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/3 "2024-12-19T22:07:23Z")
829’-8" survey (114’ - 8" project) for that run, same thing happens at level 1 at 815’-0" survey (100’-0" project) ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Boyts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/nick_boyts/32/76313_2.png) [@Nick\_Boyts](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Nick_Boyts)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/4 "2024-12-19T22:15:58Z")
When you say “same thing” do you mean same elevation or same relative offset? If you inspect both elements (`ByPoint` and `ByPointAndLevel`) do they look the same? Same exact parameter values? Sometimes the API will allow you to place an element “incorrectly” via the API. Make sure your element can be placed with and without a reference level. If you can share more screenshots of the elements themselves and their parameters that might help. ---
**Author:** ![Marcel\_Rijsmus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/marcel_rijsmus/32/8539_2.png) [@Marcel\_Rijsmus](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Marcel_Rijsmus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/5 "2024-12-19T22:19:33Z")
Maybe an End.Transaction and then set the Height ---
**Author:** ![Evan.Pond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/evan.pond/32/98460_2.png) [@Evan.Pond](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Evan.Pond)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/6 "2024-12-19T22:36:59Z")
> [@Nick\_Boyts](#): > > ke sure your element can be placed with and without a reference level. If you can share more When I run the graph for level 1 objects the sleeves gets placed 10’ above level 1 instead of on the duct. So any level that gets specified the object (sleeve) gets placed 10’ about that level instead of the height I specified. ---
**Author:** ![Evan.Pond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/evan.pond/32/98460_2.png) [@Evan.Pond](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Evan.Pond)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/7 "2024-12-19T22:38:28Z")
For now yes I added a few nodes to update the elevation to what was specified, just seems odd. ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Boyts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/nick_boyts/32/76313_2.png) [@Nick\_Boyts](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Nick_Boyts)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/8 "2024-12-19T23:05:20Z")
What’s the category of the duct sleeve? Is it hosted? Does it have an offset parameter? It seems like something else is affecting the location or you may not be placing the family with the correct method. ---
**Author:** ![Evan.Pond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/evan.pond/32/98460_2.png) [@Evan.Pond](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Evan.Pond)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/9 "2024-12-19T23:26:20Z")
Category is “Duct Accessory”, no host it’s built pretty simple. No offset parameter built as far as I know. Family Instance by point places it correctly, but without a reference level which need for tagging later. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/dynamobim/original/3X/a/3/a3be400a0310447658920518d3855f70f4522b0f.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Boyts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/nick_boyts/32/76313_2.png) [@Nick\_Boyts](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Nick_Boyts)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/10 "2024-12-20T14:18:31Z")
Can you share a copy of the family? ---
**Author:** ![Evan.Pond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/evan.pond/32/98460_2.png) [@Evan.Pond](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Evan.Pond)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/family-instance-by-point-and-level-defaulting-to-10/106724/11 "2024-12-20T14:57:07Z")
Yep [Duct Wall Sleeve - Round.rfa](https://forum.dynamobim.com/uploads/short-url/3XA0cJyX87ARNfWCOpf7n1qUihE.rfa) (360 KB)