# Default group styles in preferences greyed out **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Tags:** dynamo\ **Created:** [April 8, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835 "2024-04-08T16:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sed07](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@sed07](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/sed07)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/1 "2024-04-08T16:45:54Z")
The default group styles in the preferences are greyed out and I’m not able to change anything. Is this by design or a bug? I also tried changing from the settings xml but they are sticking to their values. Dynamo version 2.19.3 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/dynamobim/original/3X/b/0/b0a6b375884cd05a3e32bdad93c2de00d71e1b6e.png) ---
**Author:** ![jacob.small](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/jacob.small/32/161030_2.png) [@jacob.small](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/jacob.small)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/2 "2024-04-08T18:00:45Z")
Default group styles cannot be edited - even if you remove them from existence via some very dodgy API use (which I think has since been removed) they don’t actually go away, and come back in this UI the next time you start Dynamo. ---
**Author:** ![sed07](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@sed07](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/sed07)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 9:03am UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/3 "2024-04-09T09:03:00Z")
I see, do you know what the reasoning behind this is? ---
**Author:** ![jacob.small](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/jacob.small/32/161030_2.png) [@jacob.small](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/jacob.small)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/4 "2024-04-09T09:17:05Z")
I do not, but I do think it would be good to submit a wishlist item to the roadmap as this seems like something that could be possible. > **[Roadmap - Dynamo BIM](http://dynamobim.org/roadmap/)** > > Safe Harbor Statement Roadmaps are plans, not promises. We’re as excited as you to see new functionality make it into the products, but the development, releases, and timing of any … ---
**Author:** ![Thomas3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/thomas3/32/102896_2.png) [@Thomas3](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Thomas3)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/5 "2024-06-20T12:56:58Z")
not sure if it has been documented before, but I have created a wishlist item for the group styles: > > > \### Dynamo Version > > 2.19 > 3.03 > > \### Host > > Revit 2024.2 > Revit 2025.1 > > \### What i…mprovement/feature would you like to see in Dynamo? > > Let us remove the standard group styles in Dynamosettings.xml and don't overwrite adjustments with the default group styles. At the moment all adjustments in the DynamoSettings for the group styles are ignored. It is possible to import the DynamoSettings.xml in the Preferences UI and the groups are correct, but as soon as I restart Dynamo the custom group styles are gone and replaced with the default group styles. > It impossible to establish a standard in the company, if everyone has to load the settings each time starting Dynamo manually. > > Out settings for Dynamo 2.19: > \[DynamoSettings.zip\](https://github.com/user-attachments/files/15914061/DynamoSettings.zip) > > > \### How would you see this improvement/feature working? > > don't overwrite adjustments in the Dynamosettings.xml with the default group styles > > \### Please provide any sketch/mock-up or video of your requested improvement/feature > > \_No response\_ ---
**Author:** ![jacob.small](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/jacob.small/32/161030_2.png) [@jacob.small](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/jacob.small)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/6 "2024-06-20T14:29:38Z")
From what I have seen, if you leave the standard ones in the customized styles should stick. The default ones always come back though. Are you seeing different behavior? FYI @solamour ---
**Author:** ![solamour](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/solamour/32/153516_2.png) [@solamour](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/solamour)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/7 "2024-06-20T15:52:53Z")
We have the default styles there intentionally to ensure a degree of consistency for all users who do not wish to create their own. This surfaces by default in the “Group Styles” menu item for each Group. We’re open to revisiting the idea of ensuring these default Group styles persist. If you are seeing bugs where your customized styles disappear for any reason, then please let us know! Ideally with a reproducible case. @Thomas3 looking at your Wishlist item, it appears that you have such reproducible case? FYI @achintya_bhat ---
**Author:** ![Thomas3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/thomas3/32/102896_2.png) [@Thomas3](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Thomas3)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 8:23am UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/8 "2024-06-21T08:23:09Z")
yes it is reproducible, just try to use the group style settings in the DynamoSettings.xml file provided on GitHub. If you want to keep the default group style for normal users, a separate option in the dynamosettings.xml would be useful `true` Having such an option, a company can decide if they want to hide the default group styles with `false` . And thus the default styles shouldn’t be in the DynamoSettings at all, instead just one custom (editable) group style as example. Because as Dynamo admin, you think you can change the default group styles in the DynamoSettings.xml, but after testing it many times, you realize it is not possible 😛 We are using also the monocle ve to define the standards of the group styles, but it would be nice, if we can have exactly the same group style settings within the normal Dynamo UI. So we can avoid to rework scripts from users, that have maybe used the Dynamo default group styles. Also it would be nice if the groupstyle context menu can be integrated into the create group context item. Atm you need to create a group via context menu and open the context menu a second time to assign a group style. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/dynamobim/original/3X/a/3/a3bd275ccf00f1875125c8cb69cddfb1de5f05cf.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Daan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/daan/32/82246_2.png) [@Daan](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Daan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/9 "2024-06-26T16:31:29Z")
Hi @solamour , @Thomas3 , I’ve recently also been looking into standardising our Dynamo template with our entire organisation, for which I would also like to set and have others easily import these organisational settings instead of the standard Dynamo ones. I couldn’t find any other topic talking about this so continuing in here seems fitting. Therefore my question: What is the current status and method for doing this, and is it possible? ---
**Author:** ![solamour](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/solamour/32/153516_2.png) [@solamour](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/solamour)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/10 "2024-06-26T16:56:37Z")
@Daan if using Revit, please refer to this thread: [Revit 2024: Trouble deploying Revit with the Dynamo Settings](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/revit-2024-trouble-deploying-revit-with-the-dynamo-settings/91515) 🙂 If using AutoCAD, we don’t have this set-up yet I believe. Can you confirm here @zachri.jensen? ---
**Author:** ![zachri.jensen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/zachri.jensen/32/205331_2.png) [@zachri.jensen](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/zachri.jensen)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/11 "2024-06-26T23:06:33Z")
If you’re referring to setting up a deployment, then yes, there should be the same mechanism on [manage.autodesk.com](http://manage.autodesk.com) for creating Civil 3D deployments. ---
**Author:** ![Daan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/daan/32/82246_2.png) [@Daan](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Daan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 11:03am UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/12 "2024-06-28T11:03:51Z")
Hi @solamour , @zachri.jensen , Thanks for the quick responses, very interesting! Didn’t know that at the initial Revit/Civil setup you could already enforce Dynamo settings as well. Is it also possible to, when an user has already installed these software(s) on their system, to update the standard dynamo settings, specifically the grouping styles, afterwards? ---
**Author:** ![Daan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/daan/32/82246_2.png) [@Daan](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/Daan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/13 "2024-06-28T13:12:17Z")
Nevermind! I have found that you can easily import and export your Dynamo settings, including the custom group styles, from the Dynamo Preferences menu 😃 ---
**Author:** ![solamour](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/forum.dynamobim.com/solamour/32/153516_2.png) [@solamour](https://forum.dynamobim.com/u/solamour)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.dynamobim.com/t/default-group-styles-in-preferences-greyed-out/99835/14 "2024-06-28T13:34:07Z")
> [@Daan](#): > > Nevermind! I have found that you can easily import and export your Dynamo settings, including the custom group styles, from the Dynamo Preferences menu 😃 Was just about to tell you this 😃